lol. hey they made 1.6's in the states too and I could always get up to the speedlimit before the end of the slip road. 
Everyone needs to stop taking things so seriously, there are more important things in life besides what other people think, not going to change prejudice by arguing. :sigh: There was a reason why I quit posting on the forums here... people need to stop bashing each other... mods please help here, this is not how a community is supposed to feel...
Everyone needs to stop taking things so seriously, there are more important things in life besides what other people think, not going to change prejudice by arguing. :sigh: There was a reason why I quit posting on the forums here... people need to stop bashing each other... mods please help here, this is not how a community is supposed to feel...
Cmon this thread is gonna get closed too...
heh, console game and simulation don't go together.
Yes, people have been killed tripping over their own feet too.
I'm interested, sign me up pls. (starts saving now, hmm maybe as a christmas/Bday pressy)
Only in California, usually naked too =P
AJP's right about the vastness that can be found in the states. I think 40 miles without seeing anyone at 0300 in the morning is an understatement if anything, you can drive hours on back roads without seeing a single person, or animal for that matter.
I have done my share of testing in the middle of the night; it's risky, but not as dangerous as driving to work every day. His risk of crashing literally lasts seconds as he was probably only above the speed limit for a maximum of 20 seconds at any one go.
Then there is the point that AJP made about road rallies that happen in the middle of the night here in the UK. Now those are dangerous, while they are timed stages so that you cannot cross the line before a certain time, most people sit at the line for a bit so they can run through the states quickly where they are carrying speed for much longer stints at a time, on smaller, twistier roads, and where there is more potential traffic( although I think the roads get shut down for this period) If you feel the need to rant about how dangerous this is I would suggest sending a letter to your local car club asking them to stop these rallies instead, you have a much stronger argument with them.
I have done my share of testing in the middle of the night; it's risky, but not as dangerous as driving to work every day. His risk of crashing literally lasts seconds as he was probably only above the speed limit for a maximum of 20 seconds at any one go.
Then there is the point that AJP made about road rallies that happen in the middle of the night here in the UK. Now those are dangerous, while they are timed stages so that you cannot cross the line before a certain time, most people sit at the line for a bit so they can run through the states quickly where they are carrying speed for much longer stints at a time, on smaller, twistier roads, and where there is more potential traffic( although I think the roads get shut down for this period) If you feel the need to rant about how dangerous this is I would suggest sending a letter to your local car club asking them to stop these rallies instead, you have a much stronger argument with them.
Reserve tank and Odo check FTW. I always used the trip gauge to guess when I needed fuel. I knew if I was getting on 200 miles it was time to fill up!
How did you get ahold of a thunderchicken in Hungary? Not just one but two =0
Hehe.
One day I will, but not anytime soon now that I am a Daddy. No complaints, happier than I ever could be, but one day...
Hehe they are one and the same with a Different engine. GM shared BP's for the Lemans with Vauxall. The suspension wasn't the best but I put some huge tires on it and some good brakes. Once you fully compressed the suspension it was a fun car to drive =) I didn't see the initial post before editing so I don't know what was said.
89 Dodge Ram 1500
Gotta love Dodge's 360 with the 4 speed, 60MPH in first gear! Gotta love the burnouts =) So much infact we had to replace the rear end 3 times, damn spider gears kept exploding. The last time it broke we sheared the pinion shaft just after the splines.
88 Pontiac Lemans
This was a fun little car. There was a corner near my house that every day coming home from school I would kick out the rear end on, well one of those days it was pouring rain and my Brother egged me to do it anyways. i said no the rear end will not catch like it normally does because I had just rotated the tires recently. He said do it anyways, so I did. Needless to say the rear end didn't catch and we were sideways in the road. It was a good 150 yards we fishtailed back and forth before I 'thought' I saw a huge pothole and cranked on the wheel. Luckly we were mostly strait when we hit the ditch and only bent up two wheels. I then put low-pro's on it and made the car handle well by using the bumpstops for springs while taking corners, fun fun. this had a 1.4 i4.
86 Cadillac Deville
My grandma's car that I drove to school often. So much infact that I tore 3 of the 4 motor mounts doing burnouts with it. Gotta love the 4.1 v8 =)
1994 Yamaha Seca II
Not much to say about this bike, it was fun, not a ton of power, but stuck well. I went down once when I crested a hill to find a corner filled with sand.
1986 Chevy Surban
The last of my school driving vehicles. It had the 350 in it with a posi rear end. This could do some wicked burnouts too... until my grandma put it into a 20" fencepost while driving in the snow. She took a corner and the posi hit in and she just spun.
90’ Mazda 323
First car I had in the UK. Paid 2k for the first year of insurance, man that was a ripoff.
96' Peugeot 306 TD
Bought this after I fried the Mazda which kept leaking coolant. (a gallon for every 15mile trip) A very slow car and plowed better than a snowtruck, helped me build confidence in running the limit of traction as I knew I wouldn't spin around when I did, just go strait, let off and traction came back, no worries.
Peterbilt Strait Truck
This was my work truck I drove for 6 months, not this one exactly, the one I drove was a tanker. Man I miss not having to use the clutch to shift.
2005 Dodge SRT-4 ACR
My 'baby' I couldn't afford a 'real' sportscar so I bought one of these new. Decided with the ACR in the end and it's the best money I have ever spent. See other threads for more specifics on the SRT and why I like it so much.
Ahh Strobe your just jealous =) I don't see this as a 'willy wag' just interesting to see the different cars people have driven and it just happens that someone that has had some nice cars has posted first.
None of those cars the thread creator mentioned are particularly expensive. The reason why the Stang is a little in Europe is because of getting the Mustangs into Europe costs a bit of cash and of course there is always markup involved. There is nothing special about a VR6 and can be bought for cheap. Not saying they are not great cars but IMO you are vastly overestimating their monetary value.
It's not any cheaper running cars in the states, it just appears that way because more people have money to spend on things they want, instead of the government squeezing every penny out. Things are changing though and see how it is in a few years.
Gotta love Dodge's 360 with the 4 speed, 60MPH in first gear! Gotta love the burnouts =) So much infact we had to replace the rear end 3 times, damn spider gears kept exploding. The last time it broke we sheared the pinion shaft just after the splines.
88 Pontiac Lemans
This was a fun little car. There was a corner near my house that every day coming home from school I would kick out the rear end on, well one of those days it was pouring rain and my Brother egged me to do it anyways. i said no the rear end will not catch like it normally does because I had just rotated the tires recently. He said do it anyways, so I did. Needless to say the rear end didn't catch and we were sideways in the road. It was a good 150 yards we fishtailed back and forth before I 'thought' I saw a huge pothole and cranked on the wheel. Luckly we were mostly strait when we hit the ditch and only bent up two wheels. I then put low-pro's on it and made the car handle well by using the bumpstops for springs while taking corners, fun fun. this had a 1.4 i4.
86 Cadillac Deville
My grandma's car that I drove to school often. So much infact that I tore 3 of the 4 motor mounts doing burnouts with it. Gotta love the 4.1 v8 =)
1994 Yamaha Seca II
Not much to say about this bike, it was fun, not a ton of power, but stuck well. I went down once when I crested a hill to find a corner filled with sand.
1986 Chevy Surban
The last of my school driving vehicles. It had the 350 in it with a posi rear end. This could do some wicked burnouts too... until my grandma put it into a 20" fencepost while driving in the snow. She took a corner and the posi hit in and she just spun.
90’ Mazda 323
First car I had in the UK. Paid 2k for the first year of insurance, man that was a ripoff.
96' Peugeot 306 TD
Bought this after I fried the Mazda which kept leaking coolant. (a gallon for every 15mile trip) A very slow car and plowed better than a snowtruck, helped me build confidence in running the limit of traction as I knew I wouldn't spin around when I did, just go strait, let off and traction came back, no worries.
Peterbilt Strait Truck
This was my work truck I drove for 6 months, not this one exactly, the one I drove was a tanker. Man I miss not having to use the clutch to shift.
2005 Dodge SRT-4 ACR
My 'baby' I couldn't afford a 'real' sportscar so I bought one of these new. Decided with the ACR in the end and it's the best money I have ever spent. See other threads for more specifics on the SRT and why I like it so much.
Ahh Strobe your just jealous =) I don't see this as a 'willy wag' just interesting to see the different cars people have driven and it just happens that someone that has had some nice cars has posted first.
None of those cars the thread creator mentioned are particularly expensive. The reason why the Stang is a little in Europe is because of getting the Mustangs into Europe costs a bit of cash and of course there is always markup involved. There is nothing special about a VR6 and can be bought for cheap. Not saying they are not great cars but IMO you are vastly overestimating their monetary value.
It's not any cheaper running cars in the states, it just appears that way because more people have money to spend on things they want, instead of the government squeezing every penny out. Things are changing though and see how it is in a few years.
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Dodge pulled all funding for cars in 01 and the same thing happened. Seat probably wasn't seeing any gains from the vast amount of money thats poured into factory backed teams. IMO why should they. I think Dodge went the right way with providing engineering support for the teams that want it so the manufacturer can focus on doing their job, producing quality cars.
People could say that racing stimulates improvements to design, which is does, but design improvements can only be made so as to fit to the 'rules' which can significantly hamper improvements.
People also could say that running in televised series will boost your sales, I think initially this could be true, but once people know the name this has less of an effect and the money can be better spent targeting their proper audiences most whom don't like racing.
Shame to see them pull out, I doubt they will goto WTCC, but that money can be spent elsewhere with better results IMO.
People could say that racing stimulates improvements to design, which is does, but design improvements can only be made so as to fit to the 'rules' which can significantly hamper improvements.
People also could say that running in televised series will boost your sales, I think initially this could be true, but once people know the name this has less of an effect and the money can be better spent targeting their proper audiences most whom don't like racing.
Shame to see them pull out, I doubt they will goto WTCC, but that money can be spent elsewhere with better results IMO.
Ehhh ok, sure, nevermind that the ACR is the best handling FWD on the market, has won multiple autox championships and has won the 2wd rally championship in the states since the car was first introduced, even the works edition mini is slower and performs less than the ACR. Stock SRT-4 is more capable than a mini, just drives differently, no offense.
Cooper Works (which costs near $25,000, about 2k more than the ACR)
0-60 6.5-8.7 (who in the heck would make these cars do 0-60 in 8.7 is anyones guess)
60-0 123-130ft
1/4 mile 15.0- 15.5
skidpad .87-.91 which is equivelent to the standard SRT, but because of the light weight it's probably easier to drive. SRT's are front end heavy and only a competent driver will be able to reach that kind of traction.
If your mini is a cooper works they in an autox I would think it would be a fun race for both of us if you went against the ACR. The mini is lighter and better balanced, but lacks the power and brakes. But then autox is all about keeping momentum and the mini would probably be better suited. A cooper-s against a regular SRT would be a close autox again and it would be up to the drivers. If both drivers had the same skills I would say SRT, but not by much.
Get on a racetrack and the mini's advantage is taken away, not because of the power of the SRT, but because of the larger corners, which the srt could sit into better and take advantage of the better skidpad.
The SRT-4 is a budget car for sure, people knock it because it 'looks' like a neon but it's the only FWD car on the market that is capable of keeping up to a WRX or EVo once the awd advantage is done IE 30MPH =) which cost considerably more. They are a great daily driver and a good car to start into trackdays. The chassis is stiff, stiffer than the civic's, the engine is powerful, the brakes are competent, and the fully independent suspension gives it a good base to work from while keeping the costs lowish.
I keep defending the SRT, but my heart is in RWD's, just cannot afford one really. People really need to give this car a chance, it's more capable than anything out there currently.
diesels are fine IMO though they can be powerful for a commuter and if you drive a lot of miles you can make up for the higher maint. costs. IIRC the latest break even point is around 15k miles for a mint diesel burning the fuel well, goodluck finding one of those =)
Dodge isn't an import... Wait I see a corner coming, shame, it was such a nice monty too...
That new flame painjob looks very realistic!My wifes Rover 200 could pummel your V70
Haha ok =) You keep thinking that
=) It's a blast and I wouldn't trade it for anything at the moment.
The regular neon is ok, the engine has a bit to be desired, but then so do civic engines
Best words I can think of for a Civic is "Wait for it...wait.... wait, just a few more revvs.... there it is!!"
Have seen 03's for much less but these cars are worthless without the LSD.
The regular neon is ok, the engine has a bit to be desired, but then so do civic engines
Best words I can think of for a Civic is "Wait for it...wait.... wait, just a few more revvs.... there it is!!" Have seen 03's for much less but these cars are worthless without the LSD.
Yeah not a huge fan of it myself either. You can get 05's for 12-15k or so I think. Sorry, but I can't sell my ACR =P
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Saying that when I went to go renew with AA they requoted me over 1k pounds so they may have caught on to how much performance these vehicles really have, but when I was in the states my insurance was cheap too.
No they only made the SRT-4 in the States. Not sure if you could put the 2.4 into a RHD though. I don't know what would have to be changed, I know the steering rack is different in the SRT-4 so that alone would have to be custom made if you want the same steering ratio.
It was $700 to get here and another 1k pounds to fit an immobilizer and get it ready for UK roads. Insurance is cheap, I am insurance group 8! I get about 30MPG down the highway and mid 20's in town if I am not on it. Although I did 15 laps at Silverstone and I went through 3/4 of a tank or thereabouts!
Dodge still makes the SRT-4, but in the Caliber now. Makes 280BHP but is still FWD. They are considering last I heard to make an AWD package for it since they now have the space for the driveline.
Someone could get one of these cars over here and on the road for less than 8k pounds. The sound alone is worth it IMO =) you-tube doesn't do it justice.
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Tell you what, when you are still side-by-side a Bentley cont. GT over 110MPH with neither gaining then I will say that the SRT-4 might suck. The regular SRT-4 handles just as well as a type-R, just behaves differently. The ACR version, which I have, will eat every other FWD for breakfast and after 30MPH it handles slightly better and accelerates slightly faster than an evo or wrx.
230BHP @ 5200 and 250ft-lbs from 2400-4400. I personally have ran 13.7's in the 1/4 factory and it's the best handling car I have ever driven. It's equivelent to a boxterS, just behaves differently. For 12k pounds it's well worth it if your funds are low, you won't find a stronger, more capable car.
The engines make 275 or so at the crank and factory internals are capable of handing 350BHP as per Dodge. I have heard of many many people running over 400BHP on factory internals though just bolt-ons. The engine is capable of over 800BHP and over 1200BHP with a stroker kit.
The only thing 'Neon' with this car is the uni-body and the 4 doors. All body panels are different, driveline is different (with a quaife LSD and equal length half-shafts), engine is different, suspension is different, brakes are different, even the seats are different, the same seats out of the Viper, and man are they comfy.
0-60 5.2-5.6 (depending on magazine)
60-0 110 feet
1/4 mile 13.8 my slip http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Neon-SRT-4-Timeslip-9091.html
slalom 69MPH (ACR is 73-76MPH)
Skidpad .89G (ACR .93-.96)
I know stats blah blah blah but stats are used in the professional arena to show what the car can be capable of, obviously it's down to the driver so these stats only mean as much as driver is capable of, but here they are.
These are not neons, otherwise they would be called the Neon SRT-4, they are not, they are only called the SRT-4. This car was designed by the Viper engineering team and don't knock it until you have sat in one =)
Up long hills I can chug up at 1700-1800 or so and pull 5pounds of boost. at 2k it goes to 14 pounds. Normally the turbo will spool after 2k with full boost hitting at 2200, full boost is 14PSI.
On topic if anyone can make an SRT-4 engine sounds I would love to hear it! Shame the powerbands couldn't come with it too, torque FTW.
He needs to get teh timing down better, you don't need to double clutch at all, all it is is double the wear on the clutch and throw out bearing. These syncro's are tough, just a bit stiff, they use a brass selector fork though so try not to jam it in gear but.. =)
Ohh I agree, doesn't make much sense to me either. I only bought this car because it had good performance and was cheap, I would much rather have a RWD car but it just doesn't fit my lifestyle, especially now that Lyla is here and I am a Daddy! FWD's tend to get slightly better MPG, have less 'offs' in the rain and then Aimee can drive it if it comes to it. http://www.new.facebook.com/ho ... id=62092&id=709047213
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Guitar hero series =)
Finally some real stockcar racing =)
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